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john
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Posted - 07 Aug 2020 :  2:30:10 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
NOISE AT MOTORCYCLE RACE TRACKS.
The Victorian Historic management Committee is seeking information about workable systems of management for noise.
Our controlling body is under pressure from the Local Council to ELIMINATE noisy motorcycles, until they are quietened down to the noise limits.
What experience anywhere in the world has worked?
If riders are going to arrive with Barristers and Judges our sport will be ruined by those people.
We need as system that helps everybody, gives time for noisy bikes to correct themselves and have the Local Council happy.
THE TIME FOR BANGING ON ABOUT TREE HUGGERS ETC HAS PASSED, TRACKS ARE BEING CLOSED, EXPENSIVE TESTING EQUIPMENT IS BEING DEMANDED BY LOCAL COUNCILS.
Riders may have to be sent home!
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."

Patrick
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Victoria


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Posted - 07 Aug 2020 :  8:42:00 PM  Show Profile Send Patrick a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Hi John,
Ten years ago this was not a problem at Broadford. A data logger for noise levels had been purchased and print out results were emailed to Mitchell Shire by 11.00am every Monday morning.
With council approval we moved it around after the tracks were closed and some of the highest levels were logged from passing traffic by the main gate between 10.00pm and 1.00am in the morning. To whoever is in charge submit the logger data and all should be fine. Cheers Patrick
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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 :  07:30:17 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Thanks Patrick, I better find the DATa logger.
Hows things? What are you up to nowadays? regards
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."
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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 :  07:44:44 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
I take it there was a noise meter purchased also?
Can you advise me, thanks
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."
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Patrick
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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 :  10:31:07 AM  Show Profile Send Patrick a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
The complete unit was self contained, portable and was the best that you could buy at that time. It was entered into the asset register on purchase and added to the insurance policy as the cost was significant.
It took out all of the heat that the shire could generate about noise.
Also paved the way for many of the planning changes that we were able to achieve. This provided extra ongoing income streams.
Get Geoff L. to seek out the insurance documents.
I can't find your email - send a PM - talk soon PF
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acotrel
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Posted - 13 Sep 2020 :  3:27:06 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
When managing risk, there is usually a hierarchy of controls similar to the following;
Elimination
Engineering control
Administrative control
Personal Protective Equipment.

If we are not going to stop racing noisy motorcycles, we can engineer out the noise. But when risks are considered there is usually a balance to be maintained between risk areas. What would road racing be without the noise ?
Perhaps we should consider an administrative control. Come to an agreement with the local council and their electorate, that the raceway improves the local economy by attracting visitors to the town ? You could start by writing an open letter to the council and the local newspaper explaining your conundrum and asking for help. Alternatively do a whip around to get enough money for a bribe.
 

 
Is your machine authentic or merely eligible?
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acotrel
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Posted - 13 Sep 2020 :  3:32:03 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
The United Kingdom survives because of it's nostalgia kick. If we lose classic auto racing, what have we achieved ? Perhaps there should be more video coverage of events ?
 

 
Is your machine authentic or merely eligible?
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Patrick
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Posted - 18 Sep 2020 :  10:14:20 PM  Show Profile Send Patrick a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Have spoken to shire staff and I do not think that there is any problem with noise above the limits allowed at Broadford. No one can be sent home unless there is action taken by Motorcycling Victoria [the owners] of the land.
Many hours of effort over many years have gone into arriving at the correct outcome.
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john feakes
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Posted - 27 Jan 2021 :  3:13:00 PM  Show Profile Send john feakes a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Please tell me this is not real,
 

 
125 RIDERS' ALLIANCE

A wise person simplifies the complicated, a fool complicates the simple.
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acotrel
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Posted - 19 Feb 2021 :  02:18:25 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Do not create a problem where there is not one.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 15 Apr 2021 :  05:11:29 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
No noise is good noise ?
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 08 Aug 2021 :  04:24:54 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Is Broadford circuit still in operation ? There seems to be a distinct lack of interest.
 

 
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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 08 Aug 2021 :  5:18:59 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  Reply  Reply with Quote  

 
Not much because of the China Virus.
Hartwell is running some, but the HMRAV is not running any.
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."
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