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keith campbell
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Victoria


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Posted - 12 Sep 2004 :  08:11:05 AM  Show Profile Send keith campbell a Private Message  

 
Qoute attatched to Log Book issued by M.A. after application process has taken 6 months to receive.
"This motorcycle is subject to reinspection post the introduction of the philosophy of Historic Motorcycle Racing in 2005 and may be withdrawn subject to the observations made by the inspector."
Without any other explanation or consideration I take offence to such being included in my Log Book and want immediate clarification and expect all PARTICIPATING RIDERS BE GIVEN INPUT AND RESPECT TO COMMENT WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND A UNANIMOUS DECISION REACHED BEFORE M.A. ATTEMPT TO CHANGE ANY RULE WITHOUT PROPER CONSULTATION.

popeye
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Western Australia


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Posted - 12 Sep 2004 :  08:43:57 AM  Show Profile Send popeye a Private Message  

 
This little black duck just isn't going to apply for log book until after the philosophy thing is released. Would hate to be caught with a left handed thrunging sprocket or a non standard numberplate bolt if it may disqualify me.
 

 
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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 12 Sep 2004 :  09:13:52 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
Popeye, go for the logbook.

PERSONNAL COMMENT COMING UP, STANDBY FOR AN EARFUL

Force the situation where "They" have to take it off you. Image what sort of revolution that would start. For instance, under Law there is an overriding attitude that decisions must be fair. How can a logbook be ok one day and not the next when nobody has even talked about it.
Secondly, what would happen if all the riders and officials said, NO!!!. Are they going to ban us all. OK they pull the insurance, we race at non- Historic meetings; they get really tough and threaten us with legal stuff; we "panic" ourselves and then come out with another good idea, maybe even take them on in the courts. If people are serious about their passion maybe they have to show they are serious now and let every body else see they are serious now.
There have been very succesful mass movements in the past, Segregation in America, Vietnam war, Greenpeace, Anti Uranium, Street Parking in Melbourne so why not something for us, say,
"MY MUMS NOT GOING TO TAKE IT" MOVEMENT, because our mums will be sick of us all drawling and crying in the shed because we cant race our old bikes.

Imagine having to mow lawns, clean spoutings to occupy our weekends.

Make the "Methanol Ghosts" come out publicly, make them justify their views they have imposed on us, make them listen to the people [ sound familiar, to the sound of The Internationale ]
But it will only happen if we as competitors get off our butts, down to the club, pens going, phones ringing and hands in the air.
Otherwise the better organised will walk right by.
Reckon I am joking, reckon it won't work you will be right if you do nothing.

Think about it now, not later please.
PERSONNAL COMMENT
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."

 
Edited by - john on 13 Sep 2004 2:56:35 PM
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David
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Posted - 12 Sep 2004 :  09:20:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
As stated at this topic: You must be logged in to see this link. as presented on the 16th July 2004 by You must be logged in to see this link., it should of been spoken more about then and not be a surprise now. That was almost 3 months ago that the subject was brought up.
 

 
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keith campbell
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Victoria


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Posted - 13 Sep 2004 :  09:20:31 AM  Show Profile Send keith campbell a Private Message  

 
As i read that topic back then it was as is now one persons idea for discussion.IF M.A. have somehow grasped such and wish to run with it they better get our comments don't we think?
Quote from bottom of page 21 in 2004 Manual of Motorcycle Sport
"Motorcycling Australia will continue to serve it's members and the motorcycle sport community,to ensure the healthy future of motorcycle sport."
I reckon they had better get a firm grasp on this motto of operation and serve us all by asking and not telling us what we can do with OUR sport!!!!!!!
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acotrel
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Victoria


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Posted - 13 Sep 2004 :  8:43:27 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I wouldn't think we would ever have the situation where rules are applied retrospectively or arbitrarily by MA. I believe it's about time we gave the philosophy of historic racing some deep thought. When I look at the bikes at most historic meetings, many seem to have lost originality. It might be great to take an old bike and make it competitive, but when you hang mk2 amals on long stroke manxes, you've lost the plot. - sorry guys!!
 

 
Is your machine authentic or merely eligible?
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john
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Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2004 :  11:10:55 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I dont know an amal from a brake pad.
But I am aware there are people who know these things. The point is not about specifics at this satge. It is about general trends. If we do not push for discussion we will find, as per the letter to Keith Campbell, that we will something we know nothing about imposed on us.
I ask that people get on the phone to MA and ask what does keiths letter mean. What is the Philosophy of Historic racing that they are talking about.
I dont know and I have not found anybody that does.
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."

 
Edited by - john on 15 Sep 2004 4:48:22 PM
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keith campbell
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Victoria


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Posted - 15 Sep 2004 :  10:30:31 AM  Show Profile Send keith campbell a Private Message  

 
Ring MA on; 9684 0500
Fax; 9684 0555
E-mail; mail@ma.org.au
Classic racers all should have a clear understanding of any proposals being discussed, we are entitled to an answer to our questions.
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acotrel
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Victoria


2147 Posts

Posted - 15 Sep 2004 :  7:04:54 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
Keith, participation is the name of the game. I'm glad you guys aren't sitting back compacently and letting it all just happen. By the same token, I'm interested to see what MA come up with on this one. I haven't completely lost faith in them. Even though I've had my differences with them, I know their concern for the welfare of our sport is genuine.
 

 
Is your machine authentic or merely eligible?
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