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john
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Posted - 20 Dec 2004 : 11:25:52 PM
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When I wrote my piece about the Philosophy of Motorcycle racing I did not realise the pandora's box I have opened. Since MA responded with a variation I have witnessed many discussions about the situation. Over the last few days I have been to a few social activities where the different viewpoints have been discussed. It is an interesting insight into people when you hear the viewpoints in the context of how they may be effected. In essence I have not witnessed any discussion that looks at the overall benefits of any philosophy. Each person has an opinion about their own situation and thats it. If we are ever going to get a solution to the current discussion I believe people are going to have to look at the whole package. I have heard that the following viewpoints : all except 2 current P4 sidecars are illegal and should compete as P5, ;some genuine specials from the 1950's should be banned ; One off exotic components should be permissible Perhaps before we all rip and tear into an argument we need to set some perameters for the final concepts, in that we may need to have some compromises to ensure fairness, we may need to have some specific exemptions for particular classes because the horse has bolted, we may need to permit something in one class or period but not in another. One thing I an convinced of now is the many people do not race any longer because of contant rule changes or fiddles. The uncertainty may be ruining our sport. So perhaps we need to include this consideration within our perameters also. What do others think?
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John Daley Sidecar #68 ' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan
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Western Australia

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Posted - 21 Dec 2004 : 12:03:18 AM
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In my opinion if the Philosophy as handed out by Ron Kivovitch at Winton is adopted in its entirety then you might as well pack up your bikes as it will decimate most classes. This is obviously an attempt to make our sport a purist rather than a racer sport which would have been fine 25 years ago when Historic Racing first started but as so many have built and ridden machines according to the current rule structure I hate to think what the end result would be if adopted now. The main sticking point is that machines have to be technically compatible which in my inerpretation would exclude almost every P4 Unlimited Honda as they mostly run Bol Dor cranks, think also about carburettors. Technically concentrics of any type would not be allowed in Period 3, the CR Keihins in use in Period 3 and 4 would not be allowed and so on. I personally believe that we should ask for a moratorium on rule changes for maybe 2 or 3 years while the rule structure in total is revisited and a committee with representation from all states is appointed to make recommendations to the Commission and should be canvassed to all licence holders before any changes are implemented. Thats my two bobs worth for tonight, I will add some more as the discussion progresses.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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john
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Victoria

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Posted - 21 Dec 2004 : 12:47:28 PM
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Before we start on the philosophy we need to consider what outcomes we want from any new plan. I am aware of riders who are holding back bikes awaiting an outcome of this process. At a time when we need all bikes available we need to consider an interim system. CAN I SUGGEST SOME OUTCOMES REQUIRED - More machines on tracks - Balance between periods - Recognition of Specials within Australia - Acceptance of general use rather than one off works items - Recognise that we have only a small pool to draw machines from - Accept that a purist interpretation may reduce numbers
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John Daley Sidecar #68 ' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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popeye
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Western Australia

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Posted - 21 Dec 2004 : 4:39:34 PM
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Run "Bracket" categories for non log book period based bikes to allow development of machines and riders, keep them close to the fold and encourage them to build and race within the stricter confines of championship categories as their expertise grows. |
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we may as well dance |
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