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David
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Australia


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Posted - 09 May 2005 :  09:31:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
Hello,

I have had the following reported to me from a person that will remain nameless due to their position, but I thank them.

I would like to know why the Australian Historic Titles for 2005 have been announced when the following has also been announced:

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(Source: ABC News Online)

I would also like to point out that MA has deceided to not to respond to the reporters request for comment.

So is the Australian Historic Titles for 2005 on or have the tracks in Tasmainia been closed, David, Brian, Mark or Ross?
 

 
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.

Allan
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National


599 Posts

Posted - 09 May 2005 :  11:36:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Allan's Homepage Send Allan a Private Message  

 
Now is the time for MA to come clean
Don't keep us in the dark about wot's going on show us all that you do have ball's
and let us know what realy is going on with Tas and the historic champ's is it the comming out MA
 

 
Allan Greening

 
Edited by - Allan on 09 May 2005 11:39:57 AM
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john
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Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 09 May 2005 :  1:32:33 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
With respect its a bit hard to get MA to cooperate when they are pushed into a corner in this manner.
A bit of diplomacy may go a long way.

I guess the key part of the report is this section
"..... "Everybody knows that there's on going issues with different things that need repairing at the race track but it has operated in this condition for at least the last nine years," he said.
Motorcycling Australia has decided that every race track in Australia has to be licensed to the same level even if it is not used for the same activities.
Motorcycling Australia was not available for comment."

In the real world we are all aware that the insurance and claims scene has changed greatly in the last 9 years and I think it is unwise to think tracks from 9 years ago can still be considereed Ok. Look at the speeds the newer machines achieve to day compared with 9 yo. Every 10kph increase in top speed adds enormous amounts of clearance distance required.
Look at Phillip Island, Winton and even Broadfrd with the improvements they have carried out within the last 18 months. I am not familiar with the other circuits, the Tassie tracks need to get real.

As for having no money, it is the track owners responsibility to earn enough to pay for it by charging a fair price in the first place. In my experience some organisations keep things cheap and then wonder why there is not money for maintenace let alone improvements. If clubs ran with full licences they would be able to charge at the gate and make more funds from spectators available for improvements rather than asking for a handout from others.

I will ring MA and see if I can find anything out.

 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."

 
Edited by - john on 09 May 2005 2:12:58 PM
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David
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Australia


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Posted - 09 May 2005 :  2:31:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
John,

We never pushed MA in to a corner. The stuff I have linked to has been online since April 18 (about 3 weeks), and have not mentioned anything about it. I then asked them for comment, and know they read this topic before a reply was put up.
quote:
Originally posted by john
With respect its a bit hard to get MA to cooperate when they are pushed into a corner in this manner.
The response above goes in hand with the diplomacy.
quote:
Originally posted by john
A bit of diplomacy may go a long way.
Would be good if they did comment on it, but I very much doubt that they will comment on it.
quote:
Originally posted by john
I will ring MA and see if I can find anything out.
Good of you to try but.
 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.
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Alan
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Western Australia


353 Posts

Posted - 09 May 2005 :  9:59:32 PM  Show Profile Send Alan a Private Message  

 
I thought the situation was pretty clear, MA awarded the titles to Tasmania subject to certain conditions being met at which track the track owners preferred to upgrade. The track owners in their wisdom apparently decided to utilise their resources at Simmons Plains and I would assume that providing the aforementioned conditions are met the meeting will go ahead.
I hope they do as we have already spent considerable funds on deposits and purchasing a container plus modifying it to get our machinery there. We are also looking at group discounts for air travel and will have to pay non returnable deposits shortly to get the discounted rates. If the pin is pulled at this stage I can see legal advice being sought to recover our expenditure.
On another note if this is just rumour mongering then all it will do is to undermine an already precarious situation in regards to this meeting.
As I said many times last year when various people were doing what they could to unsettle the whole shooting match, be positive in your outlook until something definate can be tabled.

Alan Sidecar 21 WA
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john
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Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 10 May 2005 :  10:51:23 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I have spoken with MA, Mick Damon from Tassy and the track manager, Dick Caplice.
The major issue is differences between CAMS and MA requirements over 50 -60 metres of Armco for safety reasons and the time for it to be resolved. Dick expects it to be resolved within a week or so and has agreed to speak with me later.
The FACTs
Funds for improvements to Symonds Plains will be available on 1 July 2005. Armco fencing needs to be moved, run offs increased and track work. The contractors are the same ones that did work earlier for the carries.
MA expects a Track Licence to be issued when the works are completed.
I have spoken with Mick Damon who is looking for help in managing the meeting.
We are getting a sub committee together to help him. If you want to be involved let me know.
David, some form of closed web site may help a subcommittee leave messages etc and discuss issues, can you set something up please?
 

 
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."

 
Edited by - john on 10 May 2005 10:55:16 AM
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yamaman
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Western Australia


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Posted - 10 May 2005 :  11:10:53 AM  Show Profile Send yamaman a Private Message  

 
Not much, I know, but found a little more about it here: You must be logged in to see this link.
 

 
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