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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
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 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 5:44:31 PM
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This matter was mentioned in another topic. I was approached at Winton about forming another group. But as I explained, what steps would you put in place to make sure the same issues you have now are not sitting in the middle of the club rooms before long. Personally I do not believe a break away group would be any better. At least MA has a record of results, it has a structure that can be moved, albiet slowly, the club structure has worked fairly well for 70- 80 years I cannot remember. Surely if the clubs sent delegates to the meetings it would be a good start compared with trying to talk racers into joining a new organisation. As I mentioned recently 10% of eleigible delegates attended, another 100 active delegates attending, instead of the 16 that have been, would bring a broad range of experience and ideas that would make managemnet of the sport a lot easier for everybody. Imagine if the sidecars got control, they would be merciless, first event at every meeting, no more racing with the sunset in their eyes, oil trays on all solos, rain dances to bring on the bad weather etc etc!!
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John Daley Sidecar #68
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 6:02:21 PM
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Sorry, but it sounds like a silly idea to me. Why on earth would you want to go and waste a heap of money and time setting up a new non-controlling body when most people are complaining that they do not have the money and it is proven that they can not be bothered turning up with the current controlling body and their meeting.
Seems like a total and utter waste of time to me. MA are the over all controlling body and you already have clubs around Australia that are meant to speak up for their club, but do not and from what I have seen, when a club agrees on something, there is NO follow through, thus making it pointless.
All the clubs need to get together and start to make the MA work for them, rather than form another breakaway mob.
Is there not controlling bodies for Historic/Classic/Post Classics who report to MA? These should be doing more as well.
I have given Historic/Classic/Post Classics the opitunity to stand on the soap box and be not only seen, but heard, but what have most of these people done, that's correct, nothing.
We had David White (Chief Executive Officer: MA) come here and register and he paid only 1 more visit, but did not say jack squat (nothing). This was wrong in my books, he should of came along and quashed a few fears from some of the users and then you would not have stuff like this surface.
I do not beleive it is the way to go, but MA and the state controlling bodies need to get more involved with Historic/Classic/Post Classics, after all, where are all the modern riders going to end up when they are ready for some more fun.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
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David
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 6:42:39 PM
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I thought I was reading between the lines and the old greybeard was just getting people to think.
I have my first clasic motocross sidecar meet this sunday at Campbeltown, not far from Clunes, and hope that we get lots of grass roots sidecar fanatics at this country picnic meet. Get to the town, find the pub, follow the track next to it for 300m and bring a six-pack. ITS FREE.
Tony Powell
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 8:15:10 PM
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I don't seriously believe moving away from MA is the way to go. And you are right Tony, it's a matter of getting people to think. I've recently been in the company of a few promoters of motorcycling events. The facts are disassociation from MA has been discussed. Some committee members of one club in particular resent the term 'controlling body' which the unions (CAMS and MA) seem to like to call themselves.
What I think is needed is a stronger democratic process. Including regular attendance by club delegates at MA/MV meetings, and presentation of info and opinions on Historic Racing issues to delegates, by riders.
This web site is an excellent contribution towards participation by riders in the politics of motorcycle racing. Keep up the good work David.
Perhaps David White will one day visit and honour us with a few words!
Best Regards,
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 8:20:42 PM
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| Tony, I cannot make it to the meeting, my granddaughter is coming around. But I reckon some more location details would be great. I was at the BSA Owners meeting last week and they were planning a ride via Woodend. What about a report when its finished so we all can see what we missed out on. PS What were you riding at the island last week? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 8:34:25 PM
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I recently started the Winton Motorcycle Club and it has become MA /MV affiliated (in Feb 2003). Can anyone tell me whether there have been any newsletters issued from either MA or MV in the last six months? I would like to include news items about their activities (changes to rules) in our 'Pitstop Magazine', which we send to our 45 members every month.
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 9:34:32 PM
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| MV does have a newsletter which they are just getting going,it may be on the web site. But MV operates differently through face to face meetings with all club delegates or discipline committees etc. Its a bit Bolshie really with power by the people for the people style of operation. From what I have seen you need to attend meetings as delegates or commissioners to chew the fat with all the affiliate clubs, thats the way it works. But I ask, has final approval to affiliate been granted to Winton MCC. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 10:58:07 PM
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