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Allan
Site Moderator
National
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 Posted - 14 Jul 2003 : 09:53:07 AM
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Been "SOLD" for development as a Tourist resort "VALE" race cicuit to end within 10 years 
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Allan Greening |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 10:42:00 AM
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Wheres the proof that the scandalous story about the track ceasing to operate is correct? Facts are needed before this sort of stuff gets around.
Did you here the one about Albert Park being turned into an alternative motorcycle track, seeing the Boulevard has been blocked! |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
599 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 1:35:42 PM
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To my belief MA have been notified of this fact by the owner's and the feeling that raceing will cease operation's within 10 years source from within MA  |
Allan Greening |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 1:56:17 PM
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| I haVE ASKED ma TO CONFIRM OR OTHERWISE THE DETAILS OF THIS ISSUE. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 12:39:53 AM
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I have checked with MA and include their response to the claim that MA has been informed that PI is closing.
"MA has certainly not been told of any sale or any potential circuit closure.
Outlandish and unconfirmed rumor is ruining the Classic site"
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 9:10:59 PM
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John,
I would like to know who from MA is saying this:quote:
Originally posted by john
"Outlandish and unconfirmed rumor is ruining the Classic site"
Both Allan and I have a right to know who has a grievance from MA with this site, since they cannot get on here and confirm it for themselves.
This is something I have asked in the past, both privately and publicly and had no response from MA.
If it is a rumour, then we need an official from the controlling body (MA) to confirm it for their members so it can be put to rest on an official level.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 10:23:53 PM
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I try to avoid attacking MA/MV on this site, as I feel they can't defend themselves, without embarrassment.
As far as PI is concerned I understand it hasn't been sold yet however the price has dropped from $20M to $12M. So get your piggy bank out and take a hammer to it. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 11:49:21 PM
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I do not feel I am attacking MA, I just want an answer about who is attacking the site from MA as John had quoted.quote:
Originally posted by acotrel
I try to avoid attacking MA/MV on this site, as I feel they can't defend themselves, without embarrassment.
I am sure that we have a right to know who has an issue with the the site and what it is.
We also have a right to know what is happening with PI. Well don't we?
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 10:09:07 AM
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 5:30:20 PM
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David, It might be worth writing a polite letter to MA/MV and invite them to participate in this forum. David White must have a public liason or publicity officer, who could promote the official line in our discussions?
Best Regards, |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 5:43:30 PM
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Been there and tried that.quote:
Originally posted by acotrel
It might be worth writing a polite letter to MA/MV and invite them to participate in this forum.
Just tired of a group like MA bagging the site and not putting any input in to it. They seem to want to bag the site behind peoples back and not do it themselves.
I am sure we are all grown adults and I can take the criticism if there is any, but I want it to my face and not in a secret squirrel type manner as what has been happening.
Sorry John, but you changed the subject when you quoted David White as saying:quote:
Originally posted by john
"Outlandish and unconfirmed rumor is ruining the Classic site"
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2003 : 07:34:45 AM
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| I understand, I asked the question and that was the answer given. I have sugested they use the media person they have to make comments. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
599 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 11:27:59 AM
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Well John From The Side Racing Club of Vic News Letter June Meeting I quote " Gary C advised that at a recent MV meeting they were advised that Phillip Island circuit had been sold.Indications are that race circuit will not be part of new owner's plan" and goes on;
John As a sidecar rider i would have though you would support the SCRCVic and had read their good news letter.
I only make statments that I believe are TURE and good for OUR hobbie Maybe MA/MAVic should take to being more open in thing's that effect MOTORCYCLING in general |
Allan Greening |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 8:46:20 PM
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| Alan I think it is out of place to question my support for any club. You can think the way you like but I dont need to be involved publicly. I also support the destruction of the USA, wind energy but this is not the site to be discussing it or be asked either. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
Edited by - john on 20 Jul 2003 8:48:33 PM |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 8:59:30 PM
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I suggest the Sidecar Racing Club and MA/MV might not be reliable sources on this one. I agree with Allan's comment that MA/MV need to be more open on matters which affect motorcycling generally. This forum has been the only discussion available, apart from a few brief comments between riders at race meetings, which I have ever been involved in. I've been in motorcycling for about 45 years. Even at club meetings discussion has often been discouraged, and I'm talking about the days when motorcycling in Victoria was run from within our largest club!
I believe MA/MV should have had the foresight to see the need for some open and frank discussion - it's called PARTICIPATION. You will all note, this forum isn't accessed through a MA/MV website. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 9:06:36 PM
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Come on John, in the past you have been open to saying you prefer sidecars over solo's. (A perfect example is: You must be logged in to see this link.)quote:
Originally posted by john
Alan I think it is out of place to question my support for any club. You can think the way you like but I dont need to be involved publicly. I also support the destruction of the USA, wind energy but this is not the site to be discussing it or be asked either.
So what has changed? MA got you under the thumb? Or is it that Allan has the evidence to back himself up with and there is no come back from MA or HMRAV?
Sorry but it feels good to get the truth. Also PIM have still not responded back to confirm or deny the alligations. 
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 9:17:37 PM
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| I just turned nasty when Alan made reference to the SCRCv of which I have no issue but I am not a member, I just cant be involved in heaps of clubs. I believe alans expectation of me reading the newsletter of the SCRCV was irelevant. I do passionaltely support sidecars and now you David are suggesting i have come under the thumb of MA. Perhaps the suggestions are getting out of hand and personal. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 09:49:28 AM
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| I don't think any personal remark has been made. We all have to live with MA/MV, and I for one am not going out of my way to upset them. However we all have to stand up and be counted sometime. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 3:12:56 PM
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Hello,
This is just in from the Phillip Island Motor Sports people:
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Originally reply by Fergus Cameron
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Island Motor Sports
Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 9:14 AM
To: Wbmaster @ Classic Motorcycling Australia
Subject: Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit
Yes the Circuit is being offered for sale.
While there has been a lot of interest, the circuit has not yet sold.
There are no plans however for it not to be run as a racetrack in the
future.
The team at Phillip Island are commited to ensuring the excellent level of
motor sport activities continue for many more years
regards
FERGUS CAMERON
Managing Director
Phillip Island Motor Sports Pty Ltd
This should now put a curb on what is going on with the circuit.
Points are:
1. It has been offered for sale
2. It is not sold
3. They hope that the track remains open from the new owners (when it is sold)
This is what I am reading in to the reply from Fergus Cameron.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 7:26:32 PM
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| I would have been surprised at a different answer. The people I work with would know almost immediately if PI was sold. |
Is your machine authentic or merely eligible? |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 8:34:07 PM
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| Maybe for all the turmoil this topic has caused and the outfall as a result, we have all learned the importance of going to the source for information unless we label it a rumour in the first place. David has explained there are new plans for the site I wish it well. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 9:00:28 PM
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It has not been turmoil there John, just that people from other sites/organisations need to become more involved when there is a topic like this to put the facts right which was not done.
The fact that it was started by a particular member then another user jumped on their bandwagon and called it allsorts of names and others became involved that do not even comment on the site except through the person whom got on the bandwagon in the first place with out the need to do so and did not give a correct explanation as to why.
Then when the user that got on their bandwagon was questioned about it, they got stroppy with the site, yet again.
Yes there are new plans a foot for the site, but that is my decision and this was mine and mine alone to which this topic had nothing to do with it.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 9:01:49 PM
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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