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john
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Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  10:36:00 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
From another topic this comment was made
" Which seems to be related with the comments like (the Victorians wants a rule change it usually happens) I still don't understand how a 6 speed gearbox which was produced around 1965 can be ok for period 3, maybe the 9" double sided leading link brakes will be passed on so called safty grounds.
Maybe the lurkers on this sight are worried about being shot down in flames not agreeing was the Vic's "

I hope there is no problem with people being shot down.
I am a new boy on the block and I cant give any history about the 6 speed box etc. But I am aware of the dispute about now.
I can say that there may be an open forum to discuss these issues, but from what I hear it is a hot topic that almost leads to blood on the floor.
As for Victoria seems to lead the way "{the Victorians wants a rule change it usually happens) " I cant comment again because I am a new boy. But from what I see any idea must be approved by a majority of states to get up and I am aware many ideas do not get up.
 

 
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acotrel
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Victoria


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Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  11:40:14 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
If we really wanted to make historic racing cheaper we'd ban 5 and 6 speed boxes in P3. Trouble is 5 speeders were around pre62 (so were 7 and 8 speed boxes in Gileras). And a close ratio 6 speeder really makes a manx go!
 

 
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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 19 Jul 2003 :  07:45:28 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I just think we need to accept things for as they are and work to improve things in the future. The continuing blues about gearboxes in P3 will never be resolved now, there are too many of them. Lets accept that and work to get a more workable system for the future. The past decision makers are no longer there and the reasoning has been argued all over the place. It is distracting from P4,P5 and possibly P6 concepts. What do you think?
 

 
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acotrel
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Victoria


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Posted - 19 Jul 2003 :  8:11:44 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I don't think we can go backwards, to a purist approach. We've had plenty of fights about $600 Grimeca brakes, and the alternative from Rod Tingate costs about $3000. A 6 speed box costs $6000. Both of these items are essential for a top line P3 bike. So let's just face it there's $9000 to be spent (on top of everything else)if you want to race in that era competitively.
While we are writing the P6 rules we can probably do something to make cheap racing for beginners. Stuart Loly's bike is worth $2500 total - cheap racing in anyone's book, and that's total cost!
 

 
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 :  12:15:16 AM  

 
$2500 total, yeah right. How far out of touch are you? The front end on my 125 would cost at least that much. Next time ur polishing it for him, or whatever else you polish, tell him I'll give him $2500 for it strait up. Some people.
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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 :  8:53:31 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
We have lost the plot already I started the topic about rule changes and now the discussion revolves around costs of specific bikes. It makes it very hard to discuss any thing with the diversions. the point about the open forum and the process thru all states has been ignored.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 :  9:06:51 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I've only got one more thing to say about the costs. Stuart bought a dirt outfit with a good hi-comp 1300cc motor, flat slides and all the good bits for about $700. Have a talk to him sometime. The stuff is still lying around, if you know where to look.
 

 
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