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john
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Victoria
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 Posted - 27 Jun 2004 : 5:49:12 PM
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An experienced scrutineer at the last Historic Winton said that he had never seen such sloppy tie wires. We did have one machine loose its sump plug because the tie wire loosened.
What do others think, is it an issue?
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 : 9:01:50 PM
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| overheard one rider talking to a spectator about his oil loss problem, the problem was fixed by adding another 2 litre oil tank to the bike. Just hope it all didn't come out on the racing line. I cannot believe a wire could be that loose to allow a plug to fall out, what happened to the practise of checking the sump plugs with a mirror on a stick? |
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popeye
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Western Australia
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 : 9:43:26 PM
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| The chap what is teaching me scrutineering doesnt mind me lying on my back with my head under the machine, I'm only a young un though. I have a couple of inspection mirrors at work that could be useful for machines with fairings. The idea of letting a machine on the track with the knowledge it has a loose tiewire has possible consequences that don't bear thinking about, there are enough hazards in our sport without playing chicken with things we can control. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 08:58:58 AM
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| Do pepole think we should have a specification for tie wiring. The Superbikes do I understand? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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popeye
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 10:42:12 PM
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| A specification for tie-wires would'nt be hard to produce but a clear understanding of the mechanical function of the device and the requirements to achieve that function should be a pre-requisite for carrying out a scrutineer's task. A good side issue is for all competitors to advise and assist others who are not up to par, a bit of a hard ask among some people but not an unobtainable thing, dont put s**t on people for poor workmanship, help them obtain a satisfactory standard. |
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Allan
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National
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Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 12:16:52 PM
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| how many people know the correct way to install/ use lock wire?? It has to pull the nut/ bolt tight !! i have seen lock wire on that helps to undo the nut/ bolt The use of lock wire type depends on a couple of things so we have soft wire and stainless hard wire who knows when to use what for a starter?? Remember the time a side car rider got his motor back after being repaired and he fitted the motor to the bike and later on when racing the drain plug fell out Big **** who was to blame the people who repaired the motor they made some excuse the bloke who fitted the motor to the bike said he though that the repair guy would have done it and the people who checked the bike in scrinerning Well all are at fault the repairer said he left the drain plug loose so when filling motor/gear box he could see oil was going through the motor/gear box Well **** happens, also who knows what bolts on what motor/gearbox needs lock wiring what about the cam index bolt, drain bolt !! what do the rules say; any drain plug and or any other part that will release oil!! Why not Caam index locator/spring holder are a great sourse of oil leaks |
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john
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Victoria
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Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 1:43:21 PM
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| Do people think we need to provide some form of tuition on the subject? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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popeye
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
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Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 4:56:46 PM
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| Good idea, would probably suit to request club exec's or seniors to provide instruction at track/practice days when things are not as scrambled as race days. Another would be to include the information on the paperwork for log book applications (too much to ask for maybe), the issue of catch-tanks and belly pans could be dealt with in the same way, I have already seen a couple that would only just hold a sump full of oil on bikes fitted with oil coolers and 1" oil cooler lines (where does the other pint of oil go if there is a case split) |
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