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john
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Victoria
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 Posted - 05 Jun 2003 : 4:36:58 PM
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The rumours travel faster than the results.
It would be wonderful if people checked facts before spreading stories. Many of the rumours just did not stand up to simple checking but consummed time and created bad blood while they existed. Why cant people have the decency of simply checking first. A National Coommisoner asked me about log books before the rumour went far and I discovered we were not as vigilent as we had planned to be. But claims of one event licences being issued were simply LIES, is it any wonder administrators get sick of it and become unsympathetic to realistic calls for help.
I would like to start a rumour that motorcyclists have decided to ask questions before spreading rumours.
But on the bright side, did any of you hear about the Historic Winton that I went to. Everybody had a gr8 time, not too many upstuffs. trophies for everybody, reasonable weather. I heard the sandwiches were good but I missed out on the free cherry ripes, I reckon the solo riders must have seen them first. Pit manager was nice, the scrutineering was ok and the starter was very nice too.Good racing, numbers could improve a bit, met the blokes that gave us heaps of cash to run the meeting, converted 6 kids into sidecars and got grins all over the place. Even watched a few car races, saw a few try to emulate my spins and I hope I get the exhibitionists award for the meeting, I worked hard to come off at the same spot twice!.
I hope others went to the same meeting as I attended.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 8:55:03 PM
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| Yeah, I went to that meeting too. Sorry I was too lousy to come up with the necessary readies, I needed to have a ride. Looked most emjoyable for the riders, and the spectators seemed well entertained. |
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john
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Victoria
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Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 10:15:48 PM
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| HMRAV has been invited to MA to discuss the Log Book situation with david White, we plan to go on Friday of next week. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 10:36:29 AM
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While you are taliking to David White, could you ask how MV sees itself. Is it still the UNION, or is it a CONTROLLING BODY ?
The introduction of the log books was done without much discussion. Good or bad move , I think it's up to the riders, whether we want these things. |
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john
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Victoria
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 3:19:39 PM
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It is my understanding from the Commisioners that overall across Australia the riders agreed to the implimentation of the log books. I am meeting to discuss the HMRAV issues at the moment and not carry the bag for other issues which I am not too sure about the full story. Remember the 500cc solo single issue.
I can say that our delegate to MV Ray Steptoe is convinced clubs can get things happenning if they organise themselves and work together, so try speaking with Ray to get the plan. Of the 160 odd delegates possible to front to the management meetings, 16 fronted to the recent gathering. So maybe we need to encourage clubs to have active participating delegates. I can also say that the Historic Commissioners are considering some proposals to get feedback. But remember, if we all did what the majority that are vocal voted suited them best, there would be only sidecar events, probally nothing but moto-x because there are heaps of moto-x'ers and few road racers. So sometimes administration have to look beyond their own viewpoint. But still, the delegates seem to be able to influence things and that appears to be the best route.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 5:22:20 PM
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| Log books might be what a vocal group voted for. There wasn't the positive attitude to this initiative one might have expected, amongst the riders at Winton the other week (if it was worthwhile for Historic Road Racing). One in particular was ranting about moving away from MA, and 'going black'. |
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john
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Victoria
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 8:29:32 PM
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| Well we may have to let the ranters get on the floor and present their case and see if they have support. If they are serious about the ranting they need to get up and get organised. When I started as a Secretarty I was inundated with people who wanted mountains moved.... by others. I have now been around long enough in organisations to now realise you get tried out, but not by people who want to do the work themselves. As I have said in another place, better use of club delegates roles may move mountains. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
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Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jun 2003 : 4:49:54 PM
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The source of the comments about the One evenet licence issues at Winton now understands there was confusion between our early proposals to have a one event licence applicable, and the fact we were not permitted to have them. The misunderstood situation has been cleared up. Thanks for you patience.
Now did you hear the story that sidecars only will be permitted at the Southern Classic! |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
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Victoria
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Posted - 15 Jun 2003 : 10:28:33 AM
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| At the commissioners meeting last night this issue came up. There are many cases of rumours flying around, taking up time to spread them and more importantly fix them. It would be a wonderful world if some body simply asked a question of the best person to answer it first, and we had more chairs at race meetings. Now I am aware in the log book case, the rumour was correct, but it had legs for hours before it was mentioned to our committee. We then panicked thinking our good name was being dragged thru the mud, until I later found it was correct. But the One event licence one was not. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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