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john
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Victoria


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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  10:21:47 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
As a keen Secretary I have been aware of the power of the web to solicit ideas and try concepts, But I have become aware that I seem to be starting many topics and having an opinion at almost every opportunity. I am curious as to whether this intense involvement is healthy for the site. I am worried that Acotheral and myself seem to have taken over the site to the exclusion of other opinions. Can this be the case, have we silenced third opinions etc?
 

 
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' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."

acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  11:06:08 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
John, I've had similar thoughts, however some time ago I had difficulty accessing the site. The number of posts from different people didn't seem to increase while I was away, so these days I simply prattle on without regard for the thought that I might be intimidating or domineering or monopolising or whatever.
Regardless, I'd really welcome some input from new members of the site.
We still seem to be getting a lot of 'lurkers'. I can't understand why guys who aren't afraid of falling off at high speed, are apprehensive about sounding off on this site.

To anyone reading this post, I'd ask - PLEASE put at least ONE message up!
 

 
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john
Forum Moderator

Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  07:41:52 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
Maybe a more inviting method of discussion is required. Maybe itimindation etc is something we all should be concious of and avoid. I have found if I treat the forum like a room fall of people, I have a different approach than if I was at the footy watching Collinwood go down by 200 points. See what I mean? I am aware the site may close down if participation does not increae, so it is something we need to be very aware of.
 

 
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' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  07:55:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
John,

So true. The site needs more input from users other than the 2 or 4 others that currently post comments.
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Originally posted by john
I am aware the site may close down if participation does not increae, so it is something we need to be very aware of.
Other wise it may close down as I see no point in trying to help when no one else wants to help not only their sport, but themselves.

 

 
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David
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acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  10:11:58 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
Perhaps each of the current participants could open the You must be logged in to see this link. 'forums page', click on 'mail' and 'send a link', then send a message to every motorcyclist in our email lists, inviting them to participate.
If we did this once a month, we could do some good.
It might also be worthwhile 'pirating' a few people from other motorcycle forums, i.e. put an invite up in the general motorcycle forums indication our bent for historic racing.
I suggest a lot of people just don't know we're here!
 

 
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David
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Australia


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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  10:24:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
but would this not be taken as SPAM, should You must be logged in to see this link. send out e-mails all the time.

Besides that, there is users/general public coming by, but never input to the forums. So as far as I can see, You must be logged in to see this link. is known to others. We have some 250+ individual hits a day on this site alone.

 

 
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David
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keith campbell
Level 3 Member

Victoria


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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  10:32:08 AM  Show Profile Send keith campbell a Private Message  

 
quote:
Originally posted by keith campbell
to all who "lurk"
Now moved to:

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john
Forum Moderator

Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  12:37:20 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
Thanks Herbie, I shall pass all the suggestions on. CHannel 31 were very keen when they rang me a couple of weekd prior, so I sent some passes which they were grateful for. It went to air last week.
 

 
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acotrel
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Victoria


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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  6:56:06 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
Is SPAM illegal? I don't think so. Anyway the emails would be targetted and have a purpose - to promote Historic Racing - the end justifies the means. I get the same spam EVERY DAY, we wouldn't be doing anything like that.
 

 
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David
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Australia


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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  7:11:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
SPAM should be illegal in Australia, which is why Australian companies do not send out that much SPAM. The ones who do, normally have an overseas e-mail company do it for them.
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Originally posted by acotrel

Is SPAM illegal? I don't think so. Anyway the emails would be targetted and have a purpose - to promote Historic Racing - the end justifies the means. I get the same spam EVERY DAY, we wouldn't be doing anything like that.

Besides that, I hate SPAM, and if I hate it, I will not send out SPAM. I am a member of Coalition Against Unsolicited Bulk Email, Australia or caube.au at You must be logged in to see this link.

It maybe good to send it out to help Historic/Classic/Post Classic along, but unless someone wants it, I will not and cannot condone sending out SPAM.

I mean, how many times have you cursed and sworn at SPAM you have got? I bet every one of them and this is something I do not want our users to feel, that we are going to SPAM them.

I will make a new thing like I used to have with the Newsletter, where a user can join or leave as they feel fit. Does anyone agree with the concept I am proposing here?

 

 
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David
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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  7:14:06 PM  

 
Just wondering about Channel 31. I didnt see any posts saying that they would or could be in attendance at Winton and also about the telecast time.
Surely this is the type of news that goes on the news area of this web site.
Of course you may not have known when they were showing this.
 

 
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  7:16:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
No, the channel 31 stuff was unknown by me, but then again it would not be the first time we at You must be logged in to see this link. have not been notified, even though we always ask.
 

 
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David
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 14 Jun 2003 :  11:00:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
OK, further to this, I have managed to make time to add a form on the front page to allow users to You must be logged in to see this link.. I had done something like this in the past with mild success.

I now need volunteers who are willing to supply content to the newsletter that I will send out once a month as suggested by Alan C.

Do I have any takers to give me content to put in the newsletter?

Also a reminder, that advertisers that are on Classic Motorcycling Australia are automatically included in the newsletter. So if you are a potential advertiser, sign up NOW. Our rates are cheap.

 

 
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David
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john
Forum Moderator

Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 14 Jun 2003 :  4:33:17 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I shall help
 

 
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' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter."
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john
Forum Moderator

Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 15 Jun 2003 :  09:52:28 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I have recieved feedback that the site may improve a lot if we were more ridgid with the topics, in that an entry relates to the topic and does not include significant deviations from the topic. This way people can follow the points and make comment. Currently it is felt too many different and unrelated matters are covered at once. Since becoming aware of this I am trying to commence new topics as soon as the need arise. Perhaps different moderating plans are required. What do you think?
 

 
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 15 Jun 2003 :  10:07:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
I think that you are right. And affective from now, should a user diviate from the topic, the moderators will be deleting their response. Does that work for you?
 

 
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

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john
Forum Moderator

Victoria


3130 Posts

Posted - 15 Jun 2003 :  10:23:04 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
May be feedback from others will help. Maybe you could shift the entry to a new topic in the admin . section and send a re education note to the person. I am aware it is easy to deviate, but perhaps we just need to try, and even a note saying I want to start something diferent so please go to the new topic. Lets hope it makes the site easier to read and comment with.
 

 
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