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David
Site Administrator

Australia


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  4:55:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
Hello I have just sent the following to MA for comment and will let you know what happens from it:
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Hello,

I have had a number of issues with people on my forums that claim to be representatives of MA.

The first user was Al Kidd; he kept on saying bad things about my site in general then did a dummy spit and wanted his account deleted from the forums.

After he calmed down he decided after from what I believe to be an edging on from John Daley (Secretary HMRAV) another dummy spit and tried deleting all his posts on the forums at Classic Motorcycling Australia. I have locked his account out on the forums as result of this.

It is still not a professional way that a person who is meant to be an official from an organisation such as Motorcycling Australia to act and I am applauded at it.

I would also like to confirm if David White did say the following:

"Outlandish and unconfirmed rumour is ruining the Classic site"

Can you please confirm if he did or did not say such a thing? and why David White, who never goes on the site and puts in any input at all would say such a thing?

The above comment that was meant to be from David White was relayed from John Daley (Secretary HMRAV).

I have asked on numerous occasions for a media rep from MA to come on the site and put to rest any rumours that are entered in to our forums and quash them there and then, but Al Kidd has obviously not relayed the request.

I feel it is sad when an organisation such as MA can not spend some time re-assuring it’s members of what is going on.

I would like for this message to be given to your complaints area as I am going to place it in a message on the forums to show the Classic / Post Classic and Historic rider that I am open for public discussion on the topic of this type of behaviour.

Regards,

David Greening
Webmaster @ Classic Motorcycling Australia


 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.

acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


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Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  09:44:24 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
David, interest in this site is growing, and you must expect a certain amount of jealosy. It seems to be common amongst the autoracing fraternity, both cars and bikes. You get a lot of people involved, who have never achieved anything in their lives, started a business etc. They get the opportunity to weild a little bit of power and go berkers.
Personally I'd forget about writing to MA.
 

 
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  09:48:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
To late, I have already sent it, and I want MA to respond back. I am sick of the crap that gets put on this site from their officals.

 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.
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acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


2147 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  5:38:26 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
It's your game David, and I think you're probably doing the right thing. It's about time some of these characters were called out, and asked what's their problem.
In both car racing and bike racing there are little power groups with petty jealousies, the historic groups are probably a bit worse than others. For the bikes it's probably not so bad, but some of the car racers have actually gone out and bought up most of certain types of cars so they corner the market. Think what that does to the petty politics.
 

 
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  5:56:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
I think there is going to be something done about it. I will be having a meeting with David White (CEO of MA) early next week to discuss the issues we seem to be having.

I would like to thank David White for taking the time to ask to see me so we can resolve some of the problems going about between me, this site and MA.

I hope we can get things going on the right track that compliments both this site and MA.

I shall keep users posted on what happens with the meeting.

 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.
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Posted - 31 Jul 2003 :  4:52:13 PM  

 
Who is Al Kidd?

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acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


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Posted - 31 Jul 2003 :  7:56:23 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I believe he is an Historic Commissioner. lives and races in VIc.
 

 
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 05 Aug 2003 :  5:55:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
Well as promised:

OK, after a good meeting with David White (CEO MA), it was agreed that will be able to ask the MA media rep anything we like and sort out anything to do with Classic/Post Classic & Historic motorcycling and get an answer with-in a reasonable time from MA. These will be the official words from MA and not rubbish.

We are also going to give you all a surprise in the next week and a bit with what David has offered us for not only Classic/Post Classic & Historic, but for you the rider.

David seemed a little disappointed that there are over 700 logbooks issued and we only have about 100 users. So am I to be honest. We are here to help you the Classic/Post Classic & Historic rider, but no input from you. So get off your rear ends and start making your presence felt.

I would also like to bring up something as well that was brought up at the meeting, and that is the whinging about how much it costs to race. We all damn well know it costs a fortune to race, get over it. Some of us put a packet in to Classic/Post Classic & Historic motorcycle racing and for what, the enjoyment of the sport.

I am also going to add that if someone sends you an email from an official office, but only sends it as the individuals feelings, don't go passing it off as an official remark. If you are going to pass it on, e-mail the person who sent it to you first and get their permission before doing so.

Both Allan and I had a good chat to David White and would like to thank him and MA for giving us the time to clear some things up.

If you want to know anything about Classic/Post Classic & Historic motorcycle racing and are too afraid to ask, don’t be, we can help you get the right answer here.

Last but not least, watch this site for new and exciting things to do with Classic/Post Classic & Historic motorcycle racing in the very near future.

 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.
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Former Member
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Posted - 15 Aug 2003 :  3:53:24 PM  

 
I ask again. Who is "Al Kidd". What is his real name as there is nobody connected with MA, or MV with this name.
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2003 :  4:15:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
Ross,

His name is Allan Kidd and according to David White (CEO MA), he does represent MA as the Historic Commissioner. That is what was said during our meeting.

It don't matter much anymore. Al doesn't hop on here and post anymore. You will find that MA will not respond on here. We are in hope, that MA will allow their Media rep to come on and comment and reply with the official word from MA.

I trust that clears it up a bit for you.
 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.
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Former Member
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79 Posts

Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  3:17:23 PM  

 
I'm still around, just havn't felt the need to post recently.

Anyway the question on everyones lips is, who is "RossM" that has this in depth knowledge of MA?
 

 
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acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


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Posted - 17 Aug 2003 :  4:44:44 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I reckon 'RossM' is Ross Martin. Apparently he's just got a new job with MA
 

 
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Former Member
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27 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  9:50:01 PM  

 
the biggest problem with MA is that there is not enough new blood, I was involved in the past, over 10 years ago (road racing)and I still see the same old names on these steering committees pushing the same old agendas
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Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  9:52:12 PM  

 
I forgot to add that the punters paying the money are still confused and aggrieved with the secrecy from those directing the sport
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  06:38:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
OK, after the meeting with David White (CEO MA) we at You must be logged in to see this link. were promised a version of the minutes and what was being proposed by MA on what would affect motorcycle racing by last Wednesday and that did not happen.

I had emailed David White and he said it would be here by Tuesday (yesterday) at the latest and appoligised for the delay, well we have all guessed it, it did not arrive.

Since MA are appearing not willing to help, I will be starting a new topic on You must be logged in to see this link." target="_blank">Why should this site.... help the riders of Classic/Post Classic and Historic motorcycle racing if the controlling bodies in Australia are not willing to help them?
 

 
Regards,

David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid.
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