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steve
Level 2 Member
Queensland
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 Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 10:49:04 AM
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HI All
As most of you know here in Qld we can Race on 2 tracks Now!! Queensland Raceway (which is as exciting as stepping in dog do do) it was build for the Super V8s & the cost of running their is over the top $15,000 or there abouts what that means you need more than 300 paying entries & this day & age is not possible!! the other track Warwick (Morgan Park) 3 hours from Brisbane short circuit but there is a extention their for I think around 4 klms now about 1 1/2 ks MA/MAQ won't approve the long track because of a cutting under the bridge & Bikes will be at full noise in top blind corner etc etc but CAMS have approved the cars but not us they are asking for $15,000 to fix the problem up from the bike people if they want to race on the big track,last time I heard MAQ were not talking to the track peope because, they really doesn't want us their anyway!!
& Lakeside was brought by the Council & not letting anyone race their!! BUT the Historic Car Club have undertaken from them selfs to find & build a new TRACK it was put out to all Councils & the Kilcoy Council grabbed it with both hands & wants it in there back yard (1 hour outside of Brisbane work on the track is starting next Month???
it's all going ahead OK but we only wish it goes as planed I will keep you posted over the period & maybe we see a new track to race on
Steve Harney Queensland
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 8:04:46 PM
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Steve,
I siggest that any new track should only built with full consultation between the owners and MA and CAMS.
The situation where MA and CAMS come along after the track has been built and then do a risk assessment is not proactive. In fact it's very costly.
It'd be even better if the plans were made available to potential competitors before getting any permits.
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steve
Level 2 Member
Queensland
86 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2003 : 6:22:59 PM
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HI Again
Yes Darlington Park in Between Brisbane & Cold Coast!!MA & MAQ did not approve it!! & sent letters to all racing clubs saying if you were competing their they will take away your licences & not let you race at any MA event, one of our members raced their & MA/MAQ sent this letter saying/telling us that this person appeared on a program & will pay for it ( What Crap ) but he told MA to get stuffed & talk to my legal team he racers SuperBikes here in OZ & USA, MA cannot legally ban him & I think that also happened in N.T. But the owner bent over backwards to get it approved & MA still didn't approve the track, So track owner told MA/MAQ to getted stuffed & went ahead running so called Black Race meetings & the track now is being used 7 days a week, I even heard that some officals waving a big stick turned up one race day walking around giving everyone the ****s until owners escorted them out, when we ran the 99 Os Champs MA only gave us approval to run the meeting 2 weeks before race date the Historic Race Club weren,t very happy!!
Yea with the new track it's all been done the correct way, People running with it are saying it going to be the best bit of Bitumen/Track NO pits sheds, toilets grand stands etc will come later. NO SUPER V8S NO BLOODY TRUCKS Only for the Amateurs, so that may raise a issue where they maybe don't need someone telling them which way to build a track, AS what happened at Willowbank Qld Raceway even the Super V8 guys are saying it a **** track. I would like to know how people stand with racing at these black meetings I know that the fellows up at Darwin told MA to go jump also!
Steve
PS sorry if I'm getting excited but last time we raced up at Warwick the track owner went out of his way to piss me off if not lots of club members it looks like I will not race there again let alone spending any money to fund the car racing on the big track, so bring on this new track & both Warwick & Qld raceway can get stuffed. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2003 : 7:49:22 PM
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Steve,
I strongly believe MA and its subsidiaries are OUR UNION. They represent us (the riders) to the promoters. If they are not putting our point of view, they way we want it we should do something about it! This is what this site is about - COMMUNICATION BETWEEN RIDERS (AND MA).
We live in a democracy, and if we've got something to say, it must be heard by at least our own reps.
I haven't really got an axe to grind with either MA/MV except where they don't listen to the riders and push their own barrow.
I believe we all derive maximum benefit by staying with the union, but it IS OUR UNION!! It doesn't belong to the life members alone, a bunch of A graders, or a few promoters. It belongs to all members of affiliated clubs. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2003 : 09:54:44 AM
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Alan,
I need to put the record straight here.quote:
Originally posted by acotrel
This is what this site is about - COMMUNICATION BETWEEN RIDERS (AND MA).
This site is not about MA in any way what so ever. We are not and will not bow to their petty in fighting and childish behaviour from MA. This site is purely for the communication of each and ever rider and not to be used for a union such as MA to push their rubbish.
We want what is best for the rider and not what is going to make some organisation (sorry MA, but you are the example) such as MA make more dollars from the rider.
MA had the offer on the table to inform the user what they had in mind, but they choose not to, and now ignore us and yes you the other riders.
I say to hell with them and go it alone with your track, then you know you will get a great meet out of it year in year out from what I am currently seeing.
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2003 : 9:20:25 PM
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David, It's not simply a matter of saying 'to hell with them and go it alone with your own track'. Winton and other promoters have done just this by setting up Australian Autosport Alliance as an alternative to CAMS for sanctioning meetings. It involved a trip to London to get insurance.
While MA exercise a level of control, the riders do have some form of representation.
So anyone setting up a track should get into cahoots with MA and get some form of commitment from them before spending money on the facility. If there is a fatality at one of these circuits which is not MA sanctioned the owners will go it alone in court, and could face manslaughter charges if their safety standards can't be proven to equal those of MA. (Of course MA will probably have to show how they control the risk at these circuits, or they could wear it too - just as CAMS and Ron Walker did when the tracky got killed at the GP. I believe that case hasn't finished yet.)
As far as MA is concerned, I suggest we fix our problems with them (if any), don't walk away. |
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