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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
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 Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 7:30:10 PM
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I believe our friend has been a bit out of sorts about this forum. Might be worth sending him an email reassuring him that he is welcome here.
I believe he is a good person to stay in contact with, even though I don't always agree with him.
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jul 2003 : 7:38:58 PM
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John has not been back since yesterday. I had removed his moderator status after some issues. (That will be between John and me.)
He is most welcome, but he also needs to understand, we do not do as we are told here, and say what we think.
As a general rule, and not just to John, everyone on these forums have the right to have their opinion and others should not try to force others to alter their opinion and show some respect towards the users opinion.
Lets hope we see him back in the near future.
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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Posted - 22 Jul 2003 : 6:28:28 PM
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John
Dont give up. Since my retirement from historic racing I have not had a lot to ontribute particularly in the erea re most discussion revolves about. You have breathed new life into HRMAV where I have been a member a long time but too old and far from the center of things to get seriously involved. keep up your constructive , if somewhat way out and contraversial ideas it isd a lot of fun dinner ready no time for spell cheque Bruped |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2003 : 9:16:33 PM
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| I've had my disagreements with John, however I see him as one of the great hopes for historic motorcycle racing. He is fairly progessive and innovative, and that's what we need these days. He has achieved a lot in the short time he's been Secretary of HMRAV. Hope to see him back here soon. |
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Chris L
Level 1 Member
Victoria
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Posted - 24 Jul 2003 : 8:29:15 PM
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| JOHN, WHERE FOR ART THOU? |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 : 06:29:49 AM
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Looks like John doesn't want to be apart of these forums any more. 
I notice him on looking and that is about it.
Would it be because I removed your moderator status John, for deleting posts that you should not of
Or is because I asked you to not use one (1) page at your site
Or would it be because I made an offical complaint to MA
Maybe he is just to busy to bother informing his members what the HMRAV are doing. 
Either way, since I removed the moderator status access from his account, he has been really quite. 
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 : 11:22:52 AM
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I have been watching because I still want to be involved with the sport.
I did not spit the dummy over the removal of the moderation, I did accidnetly delete the 750cc pushrod topic. But I believe I restarted it.
I was surprised at Davids request not to promote the Classic Motorcycling on the HMRAV club forum but it did not cause me to drop out..
I am not aware of a complaint to MA specifically.
I am busy with my family and work at the moment. I have been keeping in touch with members via the meetings, newsletter and currently we are working on the Southern Classic Festival so I have been quite for that reason as well.
But the reason I have dropped out is the comment from David that the site was in place to permit anybody to say anything about any matter or person.
The tone of the language used does not make it welcoming to be inattendance, and I am wondering if a less agressive tone will come along and make it pleasant to be involved in sprited debate.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 : 3:56:47 PM
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John,
Sorry to say this but you need to read the text in the message you are reffering to.quote:
Originally posted by john
But the reason I have dropped out is the comment from David that the site was in place to permit anybody to say anything about any matter or person.
I do believe that I said the following:quote:
Originally posted by David
Do not be afraid to post on this site about anything you believe needs to be spoken about these organisations in the field of Classic/Post Classic and Historic motorcycle racing in Australia.
The full message can be read at: You must be logged in to see this link.
I want to know where it states I said: "any matter or person".
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 : 4:12:40 PM
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"Do not be afraid to post on this site about anything you believe needs to be spoken about these organisations in the field of Classic/Post Classic and Historic motorcycle racing in Australia.
Also do not be afraid to post messages about anything in the general comments, after all that is what the general comments are for.
I know one (1) particular official from one of the organisations is rather upset about this site currently and may not be back, but that is their bad luck.
Please post information about what you feel like on this site, as both Allan and I control this site and no organisations is going to tell us how to run the site. They also have no right to tell us how to run it as they do not own it, Allan & I do."
I feel I have correctly paraphrased this section to read "matter or person" |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
Edited by - john on 29 Jul 2003 4:17:01 PM |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 : 4:17:12 PM
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Correct that is what it sates and why I put the link there, but it does not state a "person" is what I was getting at.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2003 : 08:29:09 AM
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I'd suggest that anyone who gets their nose out of joint about this web site can always contribute. They can deny the truth of content of posts. They can email the web master. They can probably even ring Allan Greening. They have plenty of avenues for complaint.
To hide away and criticise in other 'closed' forums is a bit low, in my opinion.
Let's hope all the guys involved in historic racing start to work together.
I've noted similar pettiness in car racing circles, jealousies can spoil it for everyone.
I appreciate that John has come back to this forum, and is speaking his mind. It always helps to 'clear the air'. It's a pity others don't do the same. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2003 : 08:38:22 AM
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Alan,
I would like to know where it is happening. If they are not big enough to say comments about this site here, then they can quite simply get stuffed.quote:
Originally posted by acotrel
To hide away and criticise in other 'closed' forums is a bit low, in my opinion.
I know of two (2) users that have their noses out of joint, but that is because they where given some trust here and stuffed it up.
They thought that it was better to promote their aspirations and try to make hell on this site. If I have nothing to do with one (1) of those users in the future, it will still be too soon.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2003 : 8:00:38 PM
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| David, I know you are annoyed, but it's all part of the internet. On some sites you can really get 'flamed'. What happens here is really mild in comparison. At least some of the people who have been calling the shots, in the past, are actually taking note of what's being said. This can only help the sport. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2003 : 8:09:00 PM
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I still want to know what is being said and who is saying it. See that will stop me getting annoyed at the "secret squirrel" crap that is happening.
So if you can point all of the users and me in the direction of some of the comments going about would be great.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2003 : 8:14:07 PM
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Another thing, David - Someone mentioned that MV is run by the clubs. I believe that as it should be, but let's look at who goes to club meetings, who has the influence.
Nearly every A grade road racer I know, only goes to club meetings to get their comp. licence. I did the same when I raced over fifteen years. Can we really complain when MA/MV take on a colour we object to?
When I did belong to a famous Melbourne affiliated club I argued with the President over his lack of a democratic approach, and then had to put up with a twenty minute tirade from one of his supporters. This guy eventually had a heart attack and died. It would have been nice if they actually gave me a hearing.
At least this forum offers an opportunity to PARTICIPATE.
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